Tawai: the scientists

While making Tawai I spoke at length with scientists and thinkers whose work helped shape the film. These are the extended interviews.

Iain McGilchrist

Iain is a psychiatrist and philosopher. He lives on the Isle of Skye, where he is a prolific writer and visiting lecturer.

Part 1: Left and Right Hemisphere
Part 2: Attention and Perception
Part 3: Spiritual Journeys
Part 4: Philosophy
The full interview (1h18)

Jerome & Ingrid Lewis

Jerome is Professor of Anthropology at University College London, specialising in hunter-gatherer societies and egalitarian politics. Ingrid is a public health professional and therapist specialising in reproductive and women’s health. Both have spent years visiting and living with BaYaka hunter-gatherer peoples in the Congo. You can also see me visiting the Mbendjele with Jerome and Ingrid in Tawai III: Mbendjele.

Jerome’s new book, written with the anthropologist Chris Knight, is The Revolutionary Origins of Language (Yale University Press, November 2026), on how speech came out of a social revolution among our early ancestors.

Extended interview, part 1
Extended interview, part 2

Chris van Tulleken

Chris trained in medicine at Oxford University, is a Member of the Royal College of Physicians and has a diploma in Tropical Medicine. He has been a good friend since we crossed Greenland together for the BBC series Blizzard: Race to the Pole. More about Chris.

When Bruce met Chris van Tulleken

Richard Wilkinson

Richard Wilkinson is Professor Emeritus of Social Epidemiology at the University of Nottingham.

Part 1: Inequality & Health
Part 2: Human Wellbeing

Rupert Sheldrake

Rupert Sheldrake is a biologist and philosopher. His book The Science Delusion (2012) examines ten dogmas of modern science, showing how they can be turned into questions that open up scientific possibilities.

Part 1: Connection
Part 2: Telepathy
Part 3: Losing Our Religion
The full conversation (1h15)

Marilyn Monk

Marilyn Monk is Emeritus Professor of Molecular Embryology at University College London, having retired in 2004.

Part 1: Molecular Biology
Part 2: Awareness

Bruce Hood

Bruce Hood is Professor of Developmental Psychology in Society at the University of Bristol. His research explores cognitive development, and he specialises in the neuroscience of rationality, thought, action and the cognitive processes involved in magical thinking.

Part 1: Beliefs & Rational Explanations
Part 2: Supernatural Beliefs

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